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INTERNATIONAL SOCY. FOR KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS

August 25, 1980

INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS, INC., on Behalf of Themselves and All International Society for Krishna Consciousness Members, and Alan Attias, a/k/a Aja Dasa, and Kenneth L. Solomon, a/k/a Kesihanta, Plaintiffs,
v.
J. Roger BARBER, in his official capacity as Commissioner of the Department of Agriculture and Markets of the State of New York, and Thomas G. Young, Director of the New York State Industrial Exhibit Authority, and James G. Garlick, Acting Director of the New York State Industrial Exhibit Authority, Defendants



The opinion of the court was delivered by: MUNSON

MEMORANDUM DECISION AND ORDER

I.

 The First Amendment is dedicated to the proposition that a citizen's right to form, hold, or express opinions or beliefs is entitled to an accommodation from the government whenever possible. This principle embodies certain fundamental social decisions about the type of society that would be created as a result. One such decision concerns our society's attitude towards its discordant voices. Every society seeks, to varying degrees, to manage the forces of social unrest within its borders. The First Amendment envisions a system by which social order can be achieved by channeling this unrest through self-expression, rather than by trying to suppress individuals who espouse ideas that are unpalatable to the majority of the citizenry.

 As a practical corollary, however, there will be times when this accommodation will favor society's interest in protecting itself as a whole. For instance, if spoken in a particular setting or at certain times, the message of a speech may be so dangerous that it ought to be regulated or even prohibited for the good of all citizens. Society cannot tolerate a person yelling "fire" in a crowded theater when there is no fire. At the same time, there will be occasions where the manner in which speech is presented may require regulation for the greater good of society. Thus, a prohibitory rule is appropriate to guard against the con man who would have the unwary believe that he solicits for the benefit of both widow and orphan when, in reality, he desires only to improve his own treasury.

 These examples enjoy the benefit of being clear cut. In the typical situation, however, it is harder to determine where the rights of one group should end and where the rights of another should begin. Frequently, courts are required to evaluate whether, in balancing the rights of individuals, governmental entities have reached a constitutionally permissible result. In the course of exercising this responsibility in the past, courts have often strained to reach judgments, have arrived at opposite conclusions, and have covered their tracks, in the words of Supreme Court Justice Jackson, with the "pronouncement of general propositions with which there is no disagreement." *fn1"

 In the view of one noted legal commentator, *fn2" though clearly formulated rules in this area are essential, the courts' difficulties in the First Amendment arena are understandable. Says he, our system of free expression contemplates that "(t)he members of society must be willing to sacrifice individual and short-term advantage for social and long-range goals." Continuing on, he states: "yet, because (this system) recognizes the right of the citizen to disagree with, arouse, antagonize, and shock his fellow citizens and the government, such an arrangement of human affairs is hardly likely to be automatically achieved." *fn3"

 While the Court agrees with the latter proposition, it cannot accept the former as being correct. In the same opinion, partially quoted from above, Justice Jackson said: "civil liberties had their origin and must find their ultimate guaranty in the faith of the people." *fn4" There is a "good faith" limit to the number of times that the majority of society can be asked to forsake their liberties in favor of some small group which claims that their beliefs or opinions compel this result. Hence, exceptions such as these must be very narrowly drawn, and should reflect our common sense and fundamental values. In the past, all too often judgments in this field have not; and they have substituted a certain transcendental consciousness of their own for practical solutions.

 Such a judicial legacy will not only fall of its own weight, it will make it more difficult for communities to find practical solutions to constitutional problems. The ultimate danger in this course is clear. Soon, a society's long-range social goals will become casualties of short-sighted convenience, and the people will lose faith in the meaning of their liberties. Moreover, the end will have been hastened by a willingness of courts to replace common sense and values with outmoded legal theories, whose combined effect is to grant selected minorities the license to write their own code of conduct at the expense of the rights of others. While questions of free expression or religion commonly require the courts to seek practical solutions, we need not reach judgments as did Plato's men, who were chained in a cave and only able to see their shadows. There may come a time when a minority group seeks constitutional favoritism that in common sense terms is neither justified, nor is in the interests of society as a whole. At such times, this Court is duty bound to reject such a request. By way of concluding these remarks, again the words of Justice Jackson:

 
The First Amendment grew out of an experience which taught that society cannot trust the conscience of a majority to keep its religious zeal within the limits that a free society can tolerate. I do not think it any more intended to leave the conscience of a minority to fix its limits. Civil government cannot let any group ride rough-shod over others simply because their "consciences" tell them to do so. *fn5"

 This action began with the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (hereinafter referred to as Krishnas) and one of its members, Alan Attias, filed a complaint in the Northern District of New York on August 29, 1977, the day before the 1977 New York State Fair was to begin. The Krishnas are a duly organized not-for-profit corporation, incorporated under the laws of the State of New York, with their main branch located in New York City, and with various temples located throughout the United States and the world. As originally joined, the defendants in this action were Hugh L. Carey, sued individually and as Governor of the State of New York; J. Roger Barber, sued individually and as Director of the New York State Department of Agriculture and Markets; and Thomas G. Young, sued individually and as Director of the New York State Fair.

 The gravamen of the plaintiffs' 1977 complaint was that the New York State Fair's booth regulation prohibited the Krishnas from freely circulating at the Fairgrounds, and practicing a Krishna ritual known as Sankirtan. According to Krishna custom, Sankirtan requires that a devotee proselytize the Krishna religion and solicit monies for its support. The booth restriction, said plaintiffs, violated the Krishnas' First and Fourteenth Amendment rights of free speech, free exercise of religion and peaceable assembly. In their prayer for relief, the Krishnas sought a temporary restraining order preventing defendants from refusing the Krishnas unlimited access to the Fairgrounds. This order was subsequently granted by the Honorable Edmund Port, Senior Judge of this District, on August 30, 1977. Prior to the filing of the complaint, the New York State Fair had not yet formally reduced its booth regulations to writing. However, such regulations were drawn up and printed after this suit was commenced. It should also be noted that the State Fair is a cooperative enterprise between two public agencies. One is the Division of the State Fair of the State Department of Agriculture and Markets, and the other is the New York State Industrial Exhibit Authority. Both agencies are involved in this action because each has rule-making authority which plaintiffs contest.

 Although the 1977 complaint was never dismissed, one day before the 1978 New York State Fair was scheduled to begin, the Krishnas and Krishna devotee Nicholas D'Angelo filed a second complaint, seeking another temporary restraining order to enjoin the defendants from enforcing the booth requirement at the 1978 State Fair. This Court heard oral argument on August 28, 1978, and granted plaintiffs' relief effective through September 1, 1978, which allowed plaintiffs access to the Fairgrounds subject to some twenty-one conditions which were standard stipulations that plaintiffs propose to courts and various defendants in this type of litigation around the country. In general, the restrictions relate to the type of activity in which devotees engage; registration and liaison procedures; fees and the manner and place of the activity. The order was subsequently extended for the duration of the Fair, and it was partially modified to exclude the Krishnas from the building known as the Cow Barn.

 On January 12, 1979, defendants filed their answer to the 1977 complaint. Thereafter, by notice of motion dated July 20, 1979, plaintiffs moved for summary judgment, and oral argument was heard on July 30, 1979. The Court eventually denied the motion, believing that a full trial of the issue was necessary. On August 28, 1979, Judge Port signed still another temporary restraining order embodying the same twenty-one conditions as this Court's Order, and it was to be in effect until a motion for a preliminary injunction could be heard. Later that day the temporary restraining order was vacated until such time when all counsel could be present for a hearing on the preliminary injunction which was set for August 30. Between those dates, no Krishna was to enter the Fairgrounds to perform Sankirtan. One did, however, and was arrested, and later banished from the Fairgrounds by Judge Port. The temporary order was reinstated on August 30, and the Judge dictated his decision into the record the next day granting a preliminary injunction. Plaintiff subsequently moved for summary judgment on November 28, 1979, and this motion was held over by the parties on agreement that it would be renewed on April 21, 1980, which was the date set for trial on the merits.

 The trial began as scheduled, plaintiffs renewed their motion for summary judgment, and it was denied. Other motions were also disposed of at that time. These included plaintiffs' motion to add Kenneth Solomon as a party and to dismiss the action as to Governor Carey, Commissioner Barber, and Fair Director Young in their individual capacities. The trial lasted 11 days, 1500 pages of testimony was taken, and 44 witnesses were called by the parties. These included religious experts, a "de-programmed" Krishna, and a number of state and county fair officials from around the country. Before examining the facts in dispute, some further background on the State Fair will prove useful.

 The New York State Fairgrounds are located in the Town of Geddes, just outside the City of Syracuse. The total area of the grounds, including the large parking lots outside the gates and the various open spaces is approximately 350 acres. (Garlick, pp. 129, 130). The area within the gates of the Fairgrounds comprises something less than 40 acres. This is the area housing all of the many structures as well as areas of pedestrian traffic, and the 40-acre figure includes the large grandstand area and the infield parking area. After deducting the acreage of the race track, grandstand, and the infield parking area, one is left with the Fairgrounds proper, a total of approximately 20 acres within which the actual exhibits and pedestrian walkways are found.

 Attendance at the New York State Fair has increased steadily since 1977. That year, the duration of the Fair was seven days and the total attendance was approximately 526,000. In 1978, the duration of the Fair was increased to ten days, and the total attendance was approximately 686,000. In 1979, when the Fair was again ten days, total attendance was approximately 701,000.

 The bulk of exhibitors at the New York State Fair represent the best examples of the fine agriculture and progressive industry found within the State of New York. Also included among the exhibitors are representatives of various religious, fraternal, or political groups which communicate their ideas to the public attending the Fair. Exhibitor space has consistently been rented to groups such as Right-to-Life, Planned Parenthood, Seventh Day Adventists, Lutheran Laymen's League, the Knights of Columbus and many others. Many of these groups were soliciting contributions to help their cause and all were confined to booths during the course of the Fair. The Court now turns to an examination of the Krishna religion and the practice of Sankirtan.

 II.

 The International Society for Krishna Consciousness is a religious organization that traces the origins of its beliefs to the Vaishnava Tradition of Bhakti Hinduism, which was formalized in the ninth century, A.D., in southern India. The scriptural source of this Tradition are the ancient Vedic literatures. Included among these scriptures are the Samhita and the Upanishads, which are the canonical mainstays of the Vaishnava tradition, and the acceptance and belief in these scriptures are incumbent on authentic followers.

 The Samhita and Upanishads are referred together as the aShruti, signifying that their contents were first heard by the sages, as revealed to them by the Lord. The other writings of the Tradition are called the eSmriti, which are the commentaries on the aShruti. These are noncanonical or "secondary" texts, whose interpretations are not considered to be binding on the faithful. The more significant religious works studied by the Krishnas descend from the eSmriti, such as the Srimad Bhagavatam, and the Bhagavad-Gita.

 Although the Krishnas identify the roots of their beliefs as being centuries old, the organizational beginnings of their Society in this country are as recent as the mid-1960's, when the Spiritual Master A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami came to this country from India at the behest of his Spiritual Master, and started a small temple in New York City. Bhaktivedanta Swami was eleventh in the chain of disciples of the Chaitanya movement of Bengal in northeastern India. The central figure in that movement was the Sage Chaitanya who lived from 1486 to 1533, and was understood to be an incarnation of God or Krishna. It is said that Lord Chaitanya was able to unlock the message of God for the masses, and he proclaimed that one day his name would be chanted in every town and village in the whole world. The book describing his life, the Sri Caitanya Caritamrta, is considered part of the Krishna scriptures.

 It would appear that as a result of Lord Chaitanya's proclamation, a fundamental responsibility of the modern Krishnas is to practice Sankirtan, a missionary type of practice, in which the Krishnas proselytize their faith and solicit contributions. In its present usage, however, the term Sankirtan describes a religious rite vastly different from its original meaning in the Vaishnava Tradition. In premodern times, the Hindus did not believe that their religions should be aggressively proselytized throughout the general population. Furthermore, although solicitation was conducted by the Hindus, it was not considered to be a part of Sankirtan, and it was not practiced by the more religious members of the Hindu orders. A further comparison of the traditional and present forms of Sankirtan will be useful.

 The origins of Sankirtan date back to the ninth century, A.D., when it is first referred to in the Srimad Bhagavatan, at a time when the notion of personal devotion to the deity was beginning to evolve. It was next mentioned in the Bhagavad-Gita some five hundred years later, and was then practiced in the form of ritualized movements, accompanied by the repetitious chanting of God's name. The central purpose of Sankirtan was to get closer to God and involve others in such worship. Solicitation for support of the religion seemed equally ritualistic, and took two forms solicitation to guarantee survival, and solicitation to support the construction of edifices. In either case, solicitation was rarely performed by the monks or the initiated faithful. Rather, this chore was shouldered by lay specialists who functioned as managers of the religion.

 When approaching potential donors, these specialists were required to depend on "true speech and gentle speech." Moreover, they were immediately to identify their religious order and guru. Money could not be asked for directly, instead, the specialist would ask only for a contribution of food sufficient in amount to fill the outstretched palms, or enough clothing to enable survival under a tree. It was this fact that money was not asked for directly which separated those who were religious beggars from those who were not. Also, in the course of asking for a contribution, a prospective donor could never be touched without their permission. If money was needed to build an edifice, an announcement to that effect was made in the community, and the lay followers and others, such as the Maharajas and kings, would be asked to contribute. To summarize, traditionally, the practice of Sankirtan was considered a pure religious ritual, and was set completely apart both in principle and practice from the necessity to solicit funds for the religious support.

 As already mentioned, the modern Krishnas have expanded the role of proselytizing in the religion, and have incorporated the solicitation of money into the practice of Sankirtan. It should be noted, however, that they have not excluded from the definition of Sankirtan, the traditional dancing and chanting which is still practiced today, though it is not the subject of this litigation. Nevertheless, in the process of redefining Sankirtan, the theoretical underpinning appears to have shifted dramatically from its traditional sense. As presently conceived by the Krishnas, Sankirtan is the process of propagating the "truth" of Krishna. The Krishnas profess that nonbelievers in the Lord Krishna are misguided souls who are spiritually impure because they attempt to exploit the Lord's material wealth for their own personal gratification.

 To achieve a spiritual rebirth, divine instruction and full surrender to the Lord is necessary. The surrender takes the form of giving up material possessions to the Krishnas for use in the service of the Lord, and for the support of the religion. The more material objects a person gives up objects that are diverted from self-gratification towards the service of the Lord the more the soul becomes purified. The process of purification is said to take place as soon as the material transfer is made. As a consequence, it is not significant, according to the Krishnas, that an individual understand the purpose of the donation. As stated succinctly by the Krishnas in one of their publications, they believe that "(t)he consciousness of the majority of people in present societies (including American) necessitates their donation of money to the Lord, Sri Krishna's service, for their spiritual purification and to provide the required means to ISKCON's sankirtan work." (Appendix A to Plaintiffs' Trial Brief at p. 1).

 To be a devotee of Krishna means to totally surrender personal material possessions, to take up the Lord's service, and to attempt to get others to surrender as well. The materially conditioned souls, or karmi, are viewed as diseased patients who, with the proper spiritual administrations by the doctoring Krishna devotee, will be able to return to spiritual health. In practice, the process of administering to the misguided souls is conducted wherever such souls tend to congregate. Thus, Krishnas are "dispatched" in organized parties varying in numbers, and headed by a Sankirtan leader. The parties are sent to the streets, airports, bus terminals, expressway rest stops, shopping centers, parks, national monuments, naval bases, convention centers, football games, horse and auto race tracks, college campuses, and to state and county fairs. This list is certainly not all inclusive. While Sankirtan parties are usually dispatched from a Krishna temple to a predetermined location such as those just enumerated, the Sankirtan leader is given discretionary authority to spread the "truth" at whatever locale will enable the party to reach the maximum numbers of people.

 There is, nonetheless, a territorial limit to a Sankirtan party's wanderings. Each Krishna temple or farm is assigned a specific territory, and before a Sankirtan party can cross over into another temple's territory, permission must be obtained beforehand. For instance, the plaintiff New York City temple has assigned to it that City, northern New Jersey and the southern most counties of New York State. Yet, with the permission of the respective temples, the New York City temple has dispatched Sankirtan parties to the Eastern States Exhibition in Massachusetts and even to North Carolina for the State Fair in Raleigh. As another example, to "cover" the New York State Fair, the Krishnas have dispatched Sankirtan parties from their farm in West Virginia, their temples in Boston, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and a national traveling Sankirtan party called Radha Damodar which was once "based" in Pennsylvania. A temple's territorial allocation is decided by the Krishnas' governing body commission, which consists of twenty-three men representing different "zones" of the world, and overseas matters common to the Society. The plaintiff New York City temple is located in a "zone" which includes the northeastern United States, Puerto Rico and the Caribbean. Over the years as the movement has become more popular, other temples have been founded, and the New York City temple, once the only temple in the United States, has, as a result, seen its assigned territory become smaller and smaller.

 Thus far, the Court has discussed why Krishnas are sent among the public and where they are sent; the next question that must be examined is how are they sent, or the methods employed by the Krishnas in their practice of Sankirtan. A considerable amount of testimony on this issue has been presented by both parties, and it has given this Court the opportunity, unlike that of any other court in a case involving the right of the Krishnas to practice Sankirtan, to understand the various methods employed by the Krishnas when performing this religious rite. The plaintiffs' perspective on their Sankirtan methods will be discussed first. This discussion will conclude with the Krishnas' view of their previous experiences at the New York State Fair, and the ways in which the State Fair's booth restriction would affect their ability to practice Sankirtan and exercise their constitutional rights.

 From the Krishna point of view, in order to understand how they conduct Sankirtan, picture the following scenario which supposedly occurred frequently at the New York State Fair. A member of the Krishna faith approaches a fair goer, makes an introductory remark, and simultaneously offers a prasada, or some small "sanctified" item such as an artificial flower, or food stuff. The purpose of this offering is to divert the fair goer's attention and thus enable the Krishna devotee to engage the fair goer in a conversation about the Krishna faith. Other items have also been used in the course of this introductory exchange, for example, a stick of incense, candy canes, or buttons. These buttons display various messages on them like "Keep on Truckin", "I Love New York" or have portrayed two racing flags. When a flower or button is used, it is typically pinned on the fair goer's person.

 If the fair goer desires to engage the Krishna in a conversation, the Krishna devotee will attempt to sell the interested fair goer a religious book such as the Srimad Bhagavatem, the Sri Caitanya Caritamrta, Bhagavad-Gita As It Is, as translated by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, some other "small book" written by him; or a religious magazine called "Back to Godhead" which is published by the Krishnas; or a religious record produced and recorded by the Krishnas. These records contain religious songs and chanting, and the record jackets acknowledge the contributions made to Krishna "projects" by such recording stars as Bob Marley, Bob Dylan, Stevie Wonder, Alice Coltrane, George Harrison, Richie Havens, and Neil Diamond. Whether or not the fair goer decides to purchase one of these items, the Krishna devotee will ask the fair goer to make a monetary donation. Even if the fair goer does not make a contribution, usually the Krishna devotee would permit the fair goer to keep the prasada or token, and sometimes even the more religious paraphernalia if it had been shown to the fair goer. In this manner, the Krishna devotee spreads the "truth" of Krishna by giving the misguided souls an opportunity to rededicate their material wealth; attempts to disseminate as many books, magazines, and records as possible and obtain donations in order that another copy of these religious works may be reproduced; and, in the end, hopes to induce others to join the Krishna faith.

 To learn how to perform Sankirtan, Krishna devotees are schooled by their religious superiors. Certain standard instructions on how to approach the misguided souls are given to Sankirtan parties by the Krishna priests or Brahmans. The Brahmans are instructed in turn by their spiritual masters, who rely on the Krishna scriptures for guidance. The devotees are told to appreciate the philosophical reasoning behind the practice of Sankirtan and to understand the "power" of its meaning. Moreover, they are instructed that, although they should be diligent about the task, they should rely on the Lord for their success. The devotee is instructed to act ideally, truthfully, and not to irritate anyone or touch them without permission. For instance, devotees are admonished never to say that the recording stars actually participated in making the Krishna records. The Krishna devotees are told to inform the public that these stars have helped the Krishnas in a number of their "projects," but that the stars do not perform on these records. The Brahmans tell the devotee to think practically; if they force themselves upon the misguided souls at a particular locale, a scene will result, and most likely the Krishnas would not be permitted to return. One Krishna Brahman summarized the instructions as follows:

 
Very specifically we stress the point that was spoken by a great saint in our movement, that is in this particular day and age, example is more important than precept. The particulars are that you must behave according to the philosophy that you are trying to preach, and the principles, the qualities a sainted person may be expected to have, thus, you have to be humble, tolerant when people get angry or yell at you or if the authorities do something you may not think right, still you abide by what they say, if someone says no, then you don't repeatedly push them. (Transcript, April 22, 1980 at p. 71)

 It must also be remembered that at the New York State Fair, the Krishnas stipulated to a certain code of conduct, that affected the manner, place and time at which they were able to approach fair goers. Due to these stipulations, *fn6" the Krishnas were to wear identification badges and display them prominently, register with fair authorities, only engage in Sankirtan with those fair goers who agreed, not to touch anyone without their consent, and restrict their Sankirtan activities to certain places and appropriate times.

 The Krishna plaintiffs concede that despite taking great care to make certain that devotees act according to the standard instructions and stipulations, there are some "unfortunate incidents" where Krishna devotees violate these principles and guidelines, and these violations may even lead to arrests of devotees. There were, in fact one arrest of a Krishna devotee at the 1977 State Fair, six arrests in 1978, and nine arrests in 1979. Moreover, there were many informal complaints by fair goers against the Krishnas in 1978 and 1979. It is vigorously urged by the Krishnas that "these violations, if indeed they rose to that level of harm, were not encouraged or even condoned by the Sankirtan leader at the Fair or by those who prepare devotees for proselytizing and soliciting." (Plaintiff's trial brief at p. 19). In addition, the Krishnas say that if a devotee's conduct causes complaints, the devotee would be removed from Sankirtan duties. The Krishnas provide three explanations for these statistics. According to one Krishna Brahman who testified at the trial, the origin of some of the complaints results from the inexperience of new Krishna devotees:

 
Well, they are not very confident. They are making a very big transition to become a devotee of Hare Krishna, it is kind of almost like a shock; a new acceptance of authority so they are not very confident and the temple techniques they are not just in a good they are not as smooth with the people.
 
If a person is nervous when he is approaching another person, then he will immediately make the other person nervous. I give the example to them when I am training them just like if you approach a dog, the dog will pick up if you are afraid of him and therefore the dog will become aggressive so a lot of the problems with newer devotees doing Sankirtan is that they are not as confident, not as experienced, so their lack of confidence and ability to do Sankirtan would be picked up by the people they are meeting and generally that may cause some complaint, some difficulties.
 
One other point in that regard, that is actually an important part that as a devotee performs Sankirtan his ability to present whether it is a record or a book or just even meeting and talking to some one improves in terms of being able to actually explain the philosophy because as he, you know, performs his daily service day after day he understands it more and more so, for example, myself when I do Sankirtan I am able to speak with professionals and people and actually carry on a very nice conversation presenting the philosophy according to how they can appreciate whereas younger, a younger man, he can't do that so he relies more on the mechanics. (Transcript, May 7th, 1980 at pp. 65-67).

 The Krishnas also assert that some of these "conflicts" are merely misunderstandings, and inevitable occurrences at events like the New York State Fair. First of all, say the Krishnas, the New York State Fair administration has not been very conciliatory towards the Krishnas for the last three years. They claim that the surrounding circumstances of at least one of the 1979 arrests suggest that some fair goers' complaints were aggressively solicited by the State Fair administration.

 As further proof of a hostile attitude on the part of the State Fair administration, the Krishnas argue that if the liaison system created by stipulation between the Krishnas and the State Fair administration had been properly utilized by the administration, most, if not all of the "incidents" could have been easily resolved. Under the liaison system, each side was to designate a representative to whom complaints would preferably be taken before it was forwarded through more formal dispute resolution channels. The Krishnas say that such a liaison system was successfully employed during the Eastern State Exhibition held annually in Springfield, Massachusetts. At the 1979 Exhibition, there were no arrests of Krishnas arising out of their Sankirtan activities, and all fair goer complaints were purportedly resolved through the liaison system. The Krishnas also claim that when a complaint about them arises at any forum, and a member of the public desires a refund, such a request is always honored. Finally, the Krishnas assert that whenever an event draws between 600,000 and 700,000 patrons, there are bound to be a few among them who are going to be less than receptive to individuals propagating unfamiliar religious beliefs.

 The Krishnas state flatly that they cannot practice Sankirtan from the confines of a fair booth. They base this conclusion on both religious dogma and considerations of practicality. The Krishnas believe that, by definition, the karmi or non-believer is so caught up in the material world and oblivious to Krishna that the devotee must initiate the process towards spiritual purification:

 
Well, because of the nature of the conditioned soul is rebellious for Krishna, they don't want to serve Krishna. That is why they are in the material world. It is almost like a bad child but serving Krishna it's actually what he should do. You see, just like a child may not want to take some medicine but he is sick and if he takes the medicine, he will just get ...

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